tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28837843.post3594687057422592817..comments2024-03-19T07:10:27.303-07:00Comments on Quark Soup by David Appell: More on Why Arctic Melting MattersDavid Appellhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03318269033139447591noreply@blogger.comBlogger10125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28837843.post-49856022955697116762012-10-12T00:15:14.083-07:002012-10-12T00:15:14.083-07:00If we accept, for the sake of argument, as Tom Har...If we accept, for the sake of argument, as Tom Harris suggests, sea ice measurements are really that inaccurate, then the 2012 minimum might have been grossly overestimated, meaning that we are closer to an ice free Arctic than anyone thinks. <br /><br />But I doubt that was the point he was trying to make...Andy Shttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16313161977123410684noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28837843.post-11086190489618948382012-10-11T20:59:13.494-07:002012-10-11T20:59:13.494-07:00We talk about how the industry sockpuppets haven&#...We talk about how the industry sockpuppets haven't brought anything new in years, and the disinformation firms can't seem to find talent these days.<br /><br />Best,<br /><br />DDanohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03709762632849004871noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28837843.post-56350468745881497692012-10-10T20:21:13.008-07:002012-10-10T20:21:13.008-07:00Dano,
Thanks for that.
You are now officially a...Dano,<br />Thanks for that. <br /><br />You are now officially a "Juvenile" ostrich.<br /><br />In another six or seven years you may be mature enough to have a lucid discussion with grown ups.bahamamammahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01798861211103459949noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28837843.post-86642167497107318682012-10-10T06:10:38.095-07:002012-10-10T06:10:38.095-07:00Your response may help me determine what kind of o...<i>Your response may help me determine what kind of ostrich you are. </i><br /><br />The industry sockpuppets used to hide their mendacity much better than this current crop. Maybe it is the decade+ of using the same arguments over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and v over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over.<br /><br />We report, you decide.<br /><br />Best,<br /><br />DDanohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03709762632849004871noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28837843.post-52219880805500403122012-10-10T04:57:33.079-07:002012-10-10T04:57:33.079-07:00Dano,
Please read this:
http://davidappell.com/AR5...Dano,<br />Please read this:<br />http://davidappell.com/AR5/ZODS/WG1AR5_ZOD_Ch04_All_Final_cryosphere.pdf<br /><br />Your response may help me determine what kind of ostrich you are. <br /><br />bahamamammahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01798861211103459949noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28837843.post-76594249997446187712012-10-09T12:33:58.547-07:002012-10-09T12:33:58.547-07:00Only dolts and halfwits fall for the...erm..."...Only dolts and halfwits fall for the...erm..."arguments" in bahamamama's comments. <br /><br />Smarter industry sockpuppets please. They used to be of much better quality. Now they are more like Internet Performance Art parody characters.<br /><br />Best,<br /><br />DDanohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03709762632849004871noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28837843.post-84452100230910085932012-10-08T20:32:48.165-07:002012-10-08T20:32:48.165-07:00The IPCC's AR5 Working Group 1 has found the g...The IPCC's AR5 Working Group 1 has found the global rate of ice sheet melting to be roughly 300 Giga-tonnes per year. That sounds like a really scary number until you ask a simple question.<br /><br />What is the global ice sheet volume? The answer is >30 million Giga-tonnes. At the current rate of melting it will take 100,000 years to melt it all.<br /><br />The glaciers in the Rocky mountains are receding but they still exist in places that were ice free 5,000 years ago. I wonder what caused "Global warming" back then?<br /><br />Get used to it, ice comes and ice goes. No big deal.bahamamammahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01798861211103459949noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28837843.post-68130467644737926432012-10-04T18:14:24.496-07:002012-10-04T18:14:24.496-07:00Tom, that's a crazy assertion. Methodologies ...Tom, that's a crazy assertion. Methodologies for assessing satellite data are standardised, so any uncertainties are known and consistent from year to year.<br />The trend is down with certainty.Nickhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09537772941984056434noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28837843.post-9981575738068202912012-10-02T15:42:00.026-07:002012-10-02T15:42:00.026-07:00Who says the uncertainty is 20%?
The trend of glo...Who says the uncertainty is 20%?<br /><br />The trend of global sea ice since the satellite era is -40 +/- 3 Kkm2/yr (1-sigma statistical uncertainty)David Appellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03318269033139447591noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28837843.post-44001396034995815462012-10-02T12:43:07.023-07:002012-10-02T12:43:07.023-07:00When you consider the uncertainty in sea ice measu...When you consider the uncertainty in sea ice measurement of +/-20%, there has been no change in global sea ice since satellite measurements began in 1979/80. The Antarctic change (+ve) is not large enough to compensate completely for the Arctic drop, but, when you consider the uncertainty in measures, it is.<br />Sincerely,<br /><br />Tom Harris<br />Executive Director <br />International Climate Science <br /><br />http://www.climatescienceinternational.org <br /><br /><br />Tom Harrishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11449178297355995322noreply@blogger.com