tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28837843.post4326097962078862701..comments2024-03-11T09:29:31.793-07:00Comments on Quark Soup by David Appell: Mark Steyn and the Expert ClimatologistDavid Appellhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03318269033139447591noreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28837843.post-41651561207958802352014-08-30T18:24:46.370-07:002014-08-30T18:24:46.370-07:00David,
yes, I am assuming that at current global ...David, <br />yes, I am assuming that at current global avg temps that glaciers and ice caps will keep melting at least at about the rate the are doing recently.tonylearnshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15168161576867493109noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28837843.post-50901052358717721992014-08-30T10:52:08.449-07:002014-08-30T10:52:08.449-07:00Terry,
Blah blah blah.
This is climate science,...Terry,<br /><br />Blah blah blah. <br /><br />This is climate science, not communications theory. Everyone knows what I mean.<br /><br /> David Appellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03318269033139447591noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28837843.post-23866866048904539232014-08-29T16:53:21.671-07:002014-08-29T16:53:21.671-07:00Dr. Appell:
You say that "climate scientists...Dr. Appell:<br /><br />You say that "climate scientists study the signal not the noise." That's not possible for the power of the signal and the power of the noise are both nil.<br /><br />Climatologists have borrowed the terms "signal" and "noise" from communications engineering and applied them inappropriately to an exercise in control systems engineering. Attempts at controlling the climate fall in the realm of the latter discipline.<br /><br />In communications engineering information travels from the past toward the present with the consequence that it can be carried by a wave of energy travelling no faster than the speed of light. In control systems engineering information travels from the future toward the present. If this information were carried by a wave of energy this energy would have to travel at superluminal speed but for it do to so violates the theory of relativity.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28837843.post-69449562967808176222014-08-29T09:21:35.606-07:002014-08-29T09:21:35.606-07:00Tony: I get that ice will melt even with no temper...Tony: I get that ice will melt even with no temperature change, but why would the oceans still rise -- because of melting land ice (but no thermal expansion)?David Appellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03318269033139447591noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28837843.post-32692536341108727182014-08-29T08:55:03.412-07:002014-08-29T08:55:03.412-07:00to be fair, even with no EXTRA warming from 1998, ...to be fair, even with no EXTRA warming from 1998, Arctic and glacier ice would still melt, and sea level would still rise. It would take significant cooling to reverse those processestonylearnshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15168161576867493109noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28837843.post-53113935957476932682014-08-29T02:55:42.814-07:002014-08-29T02:55:42.814-07:00Thank goodness for all that Steynsian global cooli...Thank goodness for all that Steynsian global cooling. Otherwise, there'd be no summer Arctic ice left and no glaciers below the summer snowline of mountains. Or is that too cryptic for Mark S to understand?George Montgomeryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07042191140401441348noreply@blogger.com