tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28837843.post6032945008084048370..comments2024-03-19T07:10:27.303-07:00Comments on Quark Soup by David Appell: Roy Spencer's Peptic UlcersDavid Appellhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03318269033139447591noreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28837843.post-7918001167431722902015-04-09T17:13:16.137-07:002015-04-09T17:13:16.137-07:00Ha -- I like that, Eli.Ha -- I like that, Eli.David Appellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03318269033139447591noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28837843.post-35245224221267219072015-04-09T17:11:24.854-07:002015-04-09T17:11:24.854-07:00Here is an idle thought. From early on (say 1950/...Here is an idle thought. From early on (say 1950/1960 Republican have belittled science and scientists (pointy headed, etc.) One could point to this as responsible for the political orientation of scientists.EliRabetthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07957002964638398767noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28837843.post-44792494786919132582015-04-08T19:46:59.525-07:002015-04-08T19:46:59.525-07:00Thankyou David, much obliged.Thankyou David, much obliged.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15427410783634375334noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28837843.post-78590073843191131272015-04-08T06:42:47.699-07:002015-04-08T06:42:47.699-07:00Mark, here's a study done by the Pew Research ...Mark, here's a study done by the Pew Research Center in 2009:<br /><br />http://www.people-press.org/2009/07/09/section-4-scientists-politics-and-religion/<br /><br />They found a breakdown of the scientists they polled as follows, with the numbers in parantheses for the public as a whole:<br /><br />Conservative: 9% (26%)<br />Moderate: 35% (38%)<br />Liberal: 52% (20%)<br />Very Liberal: 14% (5%)David Appellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03318269033139447591noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28837843.post-31719351641171065782015-04-08T02:30:36.286-07:002015-04-08T02:30:36.286-07:00"Surely most scientists with conservative pol..."Surely most scientists with conservative politics would still adhere to professional ethics over their political allegiances."<br /><br />What is called "conservative" these days is incompatible with the intellectual honesty that science requires.<br /><br />"has anyone done a survey of climate scientists to see what the distribution of their political views is and whether it differs much from the general population?"<br /><br />Only 6% of American scientists, generally, identify as Republicans (56% identify as Democrats). Climate scientists are probably similarly distributed.<br />jqbhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07510836914645398165noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28837843.post-50201858225825872942015-04-08T02:20:37.471-07:002015-04-08T02:20:37.471-07:00Spencer displays the usual immense intellectual di...Spencer displays the usual immense intellectual dishonesty of climate science deniers. There's a huge difference between a widely held but largely unexamined view of the causes of a phenomenon when the primary cause has not yet been discovered, and the massive amounts of evidence for AGW. And Marshall and Warren were not contrarians, they simply <b>made a discovery</b>. Once their evidence was available, it was fairly quickly embraced by the scientific community.<br />jqbhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07510836914645398165noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28837843.post-86231589059928342252015-04-08T00:19:45.112-07:002015-04-08T00:19:45.112-07:00Why doesn't Spencer refer to the PAGES 2K glob...Why doesn't Spencer refer to the <a href="http://www.nature.com/ngeo/journal/v6/n5/full/ngeo1797.html" rel="nofollow">PAGES 2K global reconstruction</a>? Ljungqvist, who was behind the NH extra-tropical reconstruction that Spencer showed, contributed to PAGES 2K too. Lars Karlssonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06158469980966810882noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28837843.post-33662565264679250842015-04-07T21:46:38.167-07:002015-04-07T21:46:38.167-07:00It is very hard to say find any signs that Roy Spe...It is very hard to say find any signs that Roy Spencer's main loyalty is to his profession, rather than his politics. Surely most scientists with conservative politics would still adhere to professional ethics over their political allegiances. <br /><br />Here's a question -I figure that given your background you are likely to know, David - has anyone done a survey of climate scientists to see what the distribution of their political views is, and whether it differs much from the general population? Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15427410783634375334noreply@blogger.com