Notable climate scientist Andrew Dessler just recently was on Joe Rogan's Podcast:
I just learned of this and haven't listened to it yet--doing that now--but knowing Andrew I anticipate it will be very good. Especially in light of the recent Jordan Peterson laughable claim about climate models on Rogan's podcast.
More later.
More, 3:45 pm:
Here is a link to my slides: https://t.co/v5Mtj1LC1M I'm only including the slides I showed, but I've included blank slides to keep the slide numbers the same.
I made it through about half of Koonin's interview. It's hard to take him seriously when he says stuff like this regarding the attribution of all of the recent warming to human influences:
"They (the IPCC) completely forget that the climate was changing in comparable ways well before human influences became important and so they said no, no, we're going to ignore that, we're going to suppress it and say it's all human-caused."
At about 40:30 he shows a chart showing that sea level rate in one location --- the Battery in New York --- was about the same or slightly higher in 1950 than it is now. Tamino has a nice "prebuttal", we can call it, from November, 2021. https://tamino.wordpress.com/2021/11/12/new-york-the-battery/
Dessler did well. The basic problem is that Rogan barely asked him a single question about climate --- it was almost entirely about energy. I think Dessler handled most of the questions well, but this is clearly not his specialty. Many of his arguments about the need for dispatchable baseload capacity come from Jesse Jenkins of Princeton. It would have been better to have had Jenkins answer most of the questions Rogan threw at Dessler.
I did get a kick out of Dessler's knock against what he called 'nuclear bros' saying fusion is 10 years away.
I've listened to a good chunk of it. He does quite well.
ReplyDeleteOne of a pair. Rogan also interviewed a sceptic called Steve Koonin.
ReplyDeletehttp://clivebest.com/blog/?p=10198
I made it through about half of Koonin's interview. It's hard to take him seriously when he says stuff like this regarding the attribution of all of the recent warming to human influences:
ReplyDelete"They (the IPCC) completely forget that the climate was changing in comparable ways well before human influences became important and so they said no, no, we're going to ignore that, we're going to suppress it and say it's all human-caused."
At about 40:30 he shows a chart showing that sea level rate in one location --- the Battery in New York --- was about the same or slightly higher in 1950 than it is now. Tamino has a nice "prebuttal", we can call it, from November, 2021.
https://tamino.wordpress.com/2021/11/12/new-york-the-battery/
Dessler did well. The basic problem is that Rogan barely asked him a single question about climate --- it was almost entirely about energy. I think Dessler handled most of the questions well, but this is clearly not his specialty. Many of his arguments about the need for dispatchable baseload capacity come from Jesse Jenkins of Princeton. It would have been better to have had Jenkins answer most of the questions Rogan threw at Dessler.
I did get a kick out of Dessler's knock against what he called 'nuclear bros' saying fusion is 10 years away.
"it was almost entirely about energy."
ReplyDeleteI agree that the guest wasn't the best person to address it, but I'm glad the conversation has largely evolved to "What should we do about it".