Sunday, July 23, 2017

Silly Attempts to Calculate Trends

I mean, come on people.



Layzej said...

You can get just about whatever trend you want on an oscillating dataset by adjusting the start and end times to either a trough or peak as needed. Start four years earlier on this data and you find that TSI has dropped 0.0183 W/m^2 over the period.

David in Cal said...

Question, if someone knows: How significant is the variation in solar irradiance? E.g., is there an approximate way to say approximately how much temperature change would be expected from a 1 W/m^2 change in solar irradiance?


Layzej said...

Hi DiC,

For reference, raising CO2 from 280 to 400 results in a forcing of 1.9W/m^2.

A doubling of CO2 results in a forcing of 3.7 W/m^2 and is expected to cause about 3C of warming.

David Appell said...

David, here's a graph of historical TSI:

David Appell said...

And here are some data:


NOAA, via Lean (2000)

David Appell said...

The IPCC ARs say the climate's sensitivity to changes in total solar irradiance is about 0.1 C/(W/m2).

If use the zero-dimensional energy balance equation

(1-albedo)S/4 = epsilon*sigma*T^4

where S is TSI, then

dT/dS = T/4S ~ 0.05 degC/(W/2).

David in Cal said...

Thanks, David and Layzej.