Sunday, February 23, 2020

Read Jennifer Rubin's latest column

This is a very intelligent column by Jennifer Rubin at the Washington Post, on what Democrats should do to avoid committing political suicide (also known as 'nominating Bernie Sanders'). It's worth reading.

(To be clear, I'm not a Democrat -- I've never been a member of any political party. [Here in Oregon that's called "unaffiliated," because there is an actual party called the Independence party. Boo on them.] But I think this coming election really is the most important of our lifetime, that Democrats are completely blowin it, and Trump will annihilate Sanders in the November election. It's really a shame.)

9 comments:

Layzej said...

It's not clear to me that Sanders would lose to Trump, or that Bloomberg would win.
Some of these polls indicate that Sanders may have a better shot.

nowadaysclancycantevensing said...

After all was said and done, it took only 77,000+ votes in Pennsylvania, Wisconsin, and Michigan to make the right wing victory in 2016, they need even less now as the fascist (rw conservative) Supreme Court of Wisconsin has denied mandated redistricting for that proven rw gerrymandered state until after 2020. So Wisconsin is already gone despite what Jennifer writes and also not to mention electronic no trail voting machines, the huge fascist (rw conservative) media machine in America/worldwide, and also their inevitable fake news October surprise (see Comey 2016).

62+ million fascists (conservatives) at least will again happily vote for Trump and they'll all thank rw pundit Jennifer for her contribution to the team.

The dream is over, bow down to your fascist (rw conservative) corporate overlords, they are here to stay for many years to come (also see Trump/McConnell Supreme and circuit court judge appointees).

Thomas said...

That sort of organized campaign against Sanders seems designed to make sure as many of his supporters as possible get so angry at the party they stay at home during election. But then I understand plenty of "mainstream" pundits really would prefer Trump over Sanders.

Layzej said...

Hi David,

Is there evidence to indicate that Bloomberg would do better than Sanders against Trump?

David Appell said...

Well, I'm not a close watcher of polls. :-)

And I think Biden would do better than Bloomberg against Trump. I just think Sanders has so many potential attack spots that he would flounder in the general election, especially against the likes of Trump. Socialist (at least early in his career; now democratic socialist). I think getting rid of private health insurance now is insane -- put in a Medicare for All who want it, and let people drift there as private insurance goes down anyway under its sheer weight (I think premiums went up something like 100% last decade; that can't continue forever). His past support of various far-far-leftist governments around the world. Honeymooned in the USSR. And I'm dubious he can get much done once he's in office, unless Ds win the Senate, which doesn't seem likely.

I'm all in favor of universal health insurance. If anything I'd call myself a democratic socialist. It works in many countries. But Sanders seems rigid in his extremities. Hopefully that's just to win the nomination and he comes more towards center-left for the general election.

Trump(ists) is(are) salivating at running against Sanders for a reason.

Today I saw a poll in my email somewhere that said 65% of Americans think Trump will be re-elected.

Thoughts?

Layzej said...

"Today I saw a poll in my email somewhere that said 65% of Americans think Trump will be re-elected."

I think so too. I don't know enough about American politics to know whether Sanders has a better/worse chance than any other candidate.

David Appell said...

I thought Biden had a chance to beat Trump. But he looks like he's lost a step. I don't know. Some are saying, look at how Trump came from out of the blue, it's possible Sanders could do that too. But I don't see that happening. Yesterday he said Fidel Castro did some good things for Cubans. I understood what he meant (I think), but it's just not a wise things to say when you're running for president, a la H.Clinton's "we're going to put a lot of coal miners out of work," which got spread all around even though out of context.

It's very depressing to think of another 4 years of Trump.

Layzej said...

Yesterday he said Fidel Castro did some good things for Cubans.

There are no points scored by supporting a dictator. He should have stopped at: "I have been extremely consistent and critical of all authoritarian regimes all over the world including Cuba, including Nicaragua, including Saudi Arabia, including China, including Russia. I happen to believe in democracy, not authoritarianism."

David in Cal said...

Yes, Biden has lost a step. A couple of days ago, he told a crowd he was "a Democratic candidate running for the US Senate." He told them, if you don't like what you see, "vote for the other Biden." https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xGymiFlyl0E

Cheers