Saturday, December 26, 2020

About the Conservative Media

This is a thread of tweets by Matthew Sheffield, a former right-wing media activist and journalist, published a few days after the election as Trump and his wing of the Republican party were grappling with his loss. (12/27: There's an ugly repetition as Twitter carries over the previous tweet to embed the thread. For a cleaner copy you can read Sheffield straight from his first tweet on Twitter.

He's been down the road and sounds convincing. Here's the 2019 Washington Monthly article he mentions in this last tweet for more reading: "The Conservative Establishment’s Nightmare Is Only Just Beginning," 

Note 12/27: A few minor edits at the beginning.

10 comments:

Thomas said...

Twitter is destroying rational disussion. No matter if you agree with what he says or not, reading it formatted like that is a PITA.

David Appell said...

It's OK if you read it on Twitter -- the repetition don't show up. It just shows up like that on the embeddings, like here. It might be easier to just start at this first tweet and read it there:

https://twitter.com/mattsheffield/status/1324908316548493313

I'll put a link near the top of my post to say that.

David Appell said...

I put a note in the first paragraph that it's cleaner to read the tweets on twitter.com. Hope that helps.

David in Cal said...

An incorrect syllogism:

{Some claims of fraud failed to stand up}
THEREFORE
[All claims fraud will fail to stand up}

Cheers

David Appell said...

Still no evidence.

Entropic man said...

David in Cal

No human system is completely immune to fraud, though we can get pretty close.

In Northern Ireland the dead used to arise and vote, and we were encouraged to vote early and often. There was stiff competition to be the party controlling the electoral commission because of the opportunities for voter suppression and gerrymandering.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voter_suppression_in_the_United_States

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gerrymandering

We have learned the hard way how to run a voting system.You have to pass multiple identity checks to join the electoral register and cast your vote. The electoral register, constituency boundaries, the number and positioning of polling stations etc are controlled by an Electoral Commission structured to minimise political control.The

Having now watched two US elections from the outside, it is noticeable that the actual voting system is resistant to personation or multiple voting fraud and the counting systems are similarly robust.The

The weakness is in the Electoral Commissions. These are under the political control of whichever party controls the state.

This makes it too easy to rig the system to maximise the votes and candidates for your own side while minimising those of your opposition.

Entropic man said...

David in Cal

If you want to improve the system, remove the opportunities for gerrymandering and voter suppression by removing the opportunities for voter suppression and gerrymandering.

Remove partisan political control of the Electoral Commissions.

Entropic man said...

Sorry, that got a bit scrambled by my software.

David in Cal

If you want to improve the system, remove the opportunities for gerrymandering and voter suppression.

Remove partisan political control of the Electoral Commissions. "

J. D. said...

Still no evidence.

In fairness he did tell us about the "suitcases" of votes "hidden" under a desk. I wonder what happened to them?

Layzej said...

Here's proof of voter fraud. This is one of the 10 dead voters highlighted by Trump's legal team: "A Pennsylvania man is facing charges of unlawful voting and perjury after prosecutors say he illegally voted on behalf of a long-dead family member in the General Election." - https://www.ctvnews.ca/world/america-votes/pennsylvania-man-accused-of-casting-dead-mother-s-ballot-for-trump-1.5241670

How many more dead mothers voted for Trump?

The world is beginning to understand that elections in the USA are a sham.